Night on Clothes Mountain

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definitely not the kitchen one...I know you better than that. In fact, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say NONE of them.
It could be gross dirtiness but I'm wondering more and more if it's not hording.

I mention this because I was just thinking about how HORRENDOUS my brother's house is. He used to be Mr. Neat Guy. Then, he married It. She never cleaned up and one could say it's a mental illness or part of her mental illness (untreated, only a marriage counselor years ago told her she needed treatment, incl. drugs, for bi-polar and if she wasn't willing to do that, my brother should divorce her--rather, they started having kids).

Anyhoo, point is now their whole house is like your photo but add to it 3 little girls toys and clothing. Tons of it. Tons.

I don't think it's all about the mental illness per se. Perhaps in our culture of consumerism and materialism, for those who cannot actually afford the Next Big Thing or the Pricey Labels, maybe they simply stuff themselves with junk, trying to fool themselves that it makes them "okay" and "up with the Joneses."

Or they're just nasty dirty gross fs but this is some pervasive shite.

Yowza. I was thinking along the same lines as DKN--NOTA.

I mean, I'm bad when it comes to clutter and disorganization, but this all makes me feel like an OCD neat freak.

and I can tell you that if I had a child or 6 I would make an effort to keep things sanitary for their protection. I mean--I try to keep the disgusting food mess to a bare minimum anyway (like in the trash can and occasionally the sink) but I would actually have a reason to do housework if anyone besides the dog were living with me.

Um. Added good luck to you on the house hunting.

I can see Redz kicking the empty house into shape. I mean, it's not a biohazard site--a hammer and some nails, she'll have that thing looking like a model home in 2 weeks.
Oh shit! somehow I didn't see the empty one. OK - I vote empty house.

I believe I see a gigantic orange bra on the flo. It seems to have basketball sized cups?

I hope you saved some big caulk.

Empty wins?

As a coutesy I hope you left a bug bomb in the other four apartments in the "on" position.

We moved into a hippie house and I found a great Bob Marley t-shirt stuffed in a window gap. Screw the gap. That shirt is mine!

That's what's weird. Empty House is the last ditch, could move in immediately if I panicked. I'm actually considering Dirty Hippie House, because it's such a cute little house. With some serious cleaning, it would be a nice house. 3 bedrooms, 1 bath with original tilework and clawfoot tub. Kitchen is sketchy but has good light. Despite the filth, the hardwood floors throughout look to be in good repair.

I think real estate agent blanched when he realized I was seriously considering the house, and he's trying to rush another client into getting their home on the market, because he thinks it'll be better for me.
Ew, ew, triple ew.

Well, you do like a good challenge and a project. Sounds like the hippie house would keep you out of trouble for a while.

When I was shopping for my condo/townhouse, the one I liked the best was the empty one, with new carpet, new paint job and new blinds. It was also the cheapest and the closest to my job. It really was meant to be.

You'll know what you want when you see it!
I was sooo going to guess the mess.
Cos filth you can clean, and original tile and clawfoot tub sounds good.
And if you have a little cash... or get a good deal on the price... you can switch out the appliances in the kitchen pretty easily.
And have stuff you picked out, instead of paying for someone else's kitchen upgrade, based on their thoughts on what an average house buyer wants to see.
Hire a dumpster and a couple of husky boys for an afternoon, and shovel the place out.
Or keep looking.
C'mon, it is really fascinating walking through what other people live with.
I'm willing to bet that if you run into the Clothes Mountain People walking about in public they look perfectly normal.

If your idea of "perfectly normal" is Unwashed Hippy in Peasant Skirt and Birkies.

I'm willing to bet that if you run into the Clothes Mountain People walking about in public they look perfectly normal.


LW lives in Berkley. That is perfectly normal! ;-)

Exactly... perfectly normal, like i said.
RedZ has just internalized the prejudices of her midwestern Protestant upbringing and it manifests in anti-perfectly-normal-clothing bigotry. It's sad, but early conditioning is hard to break, esp. if you've never been lucky enough to live in civilization. Am so glad my folks settled one state west.

Presumably, when the renters move out, they take their crap with them (or you throw it out) and no matter where you move, you have to clean it -- esp. with the aforesaid upbringing.
Also, I am a neat-freak, clutter-hater. And that apparently has nothing to do with my upbringing, since I was raised alongside people who did not grow up to feel that way.
Hahahaha. You guys are funny. Mr. IG was exactly the same as Redz about Bay Area-style clothing. It is totally a Midwestern reaction.
Besides, think how good you'd feel bring the house back from the Dark Side...

What cracks me up is how badly my real estate agent doesn't want me to make an offer on it. He refers to it as "the dog house," as in "that house is a dog."

His desperation takes the form of little snarky emails about the property.
The real question still is, how is the underlying structure of the place?
And is it where you want to be.
Cos it won't grow legs and move to a better place, no matter how full of proto-matter it may currently be.
And mess is one thing, a roof replacement is another.
But if your stuff is all off in a pod, blowing through doing floors and painting is not that bad.
Or at least certainly sucks less than trying to do it on top of your stuff.
Oh.
And the other real question is where it stands, price-wise, in relation to the more move-in ready ones.
Would you be paying a premium for something squeekyclean?
Well, I'm not even looking at anything that's outside my acceptable radius of walking to work, and this one's closer than a few others. As for structural soundness--that's a question for the inspector.

Not only would I have to pay a premium for "squeaky clean," but all the squeaky cleans have FUCKING CARPET. God, how I hate carpet. This house, at least I could see the wood floors and see what shape they were in.
Ugh. Wood floors, no matter what shape they're in, are much better than carpet. I <3 ours. The people before us had put yucky carpet over one of the rooms and we thought we were doomed to have to replace it with laminate. But we pulled it up and WOO HOO, there was the original wood. One dude with big machines later, restored. Ahhh.

Closer is best. Dirt and clutter can be dealt with by your OCD, you'll be so happy cleaning.

Tell realtor to get a grip, that you'll be taking that one unless he can find something closer with wood floors for cheaper.
Oh my.
Man, if I am not careful my house will look like that. Ok, not quite...but.....gotta get these kittens outta here pronto!!!
See, what's funny is that pic isn't even of Hippie House. I'll post some of those pics later, because they're about a thousand times worse.

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